This issue of Point d'ironie is a collaboration between John Giorno (born in 1936, died in 2019) and Ugo Rondinone. I knew of the trans-generational dialogue between the two artists, who see each other regularly since Rondinone moved to New York, and so invited them to work together. Rondinone disguised Giorno as a clown and took photos to accompany Giorno's poem "Demons in the Details" and vice versa.

Giorno's poem has since been translated into French, Italian, Spanish and Japanese, available on flyers which accompany the Point d'ironie. We would like to thank both artists for the wonderful dialogue. We are also indebted to Brigitte Cornand for triggering the contact with John Giorno. Hans Ulrich Obrist